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Post by scriptman on Sept 2, 2008 9:35:50 GMT 1
I didn't want to hijack Thommo's thread, but I am interested in what Foo had to say.
I see where Foo is coming from, but how many groups and songs have people listened to before deciding what floats their boat so to speak. Foo.. You are crazy on the Foo fighters... but you're at an age (and I don't wish to appear rude) where you've lived through lots of different styles, genres, and fads.....and you've come to the conclusion that Foo Fighters are your best ever band. I think there's five or six years difference between you and I, which means I have lived and seen the same changes as you... but I still maintain that 70s rock is better. I far from dislike the Foo Fighters, they are a good rock band..... but they don't register to me as a band who make great music. Which beckons the question, what does make good music for people?
I personally like to hear a story in music, and when it is delivered with great passion, whether it's with angst, sadness, anger, or joy. When I see the likes of Westlife, Kylie Minogue etc perform I see fabricated emotion. These people have acting coaches for christ sake so they can act their way through songs. If they are genuinely passionate about the song, they wouldn't need to act. Can you imagine Bono, Freddy Mercury, Noel Gallagher, or James Dean Bradfield needing acting coaches? Some people compared Rachel Stevens to Dido. Dido is a performer who is passionate about her songs, Rachel Stevens is only in it for the glory and money. How do we know this? Well just have a look at the performances. I think there's a lot of good music out there by good singers, but they haven't a chance whilst there's people like Simon Cowell, Louis Walsh, Simon Fuller, and Pete Waterman about.
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Post by animallittle on Sept 2, 2008 11:03:12 GMT 1
Sometimes i think we music buffs can look into the things a little too deep,i acknowledge the points you make Script and can see where you are coming from,but surely its just a case of what sounds good to you,whats going on in your life and what memories it leaves you with,whether the artist is in it for the money or not does not deflate from the sound they produce in my opinion.
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Post by scriptman on Sept 2, 2008 12:07:27 GMT 1
We all have different views and who is right is anyone's guess, but coming from my perspective I don't entirely agree with your view. I believe it's human nature to be selective in what we choose to remember or associate with any given events.
That song came out the same time as the Smurfs Song so why isn't that amongst your favourites or sign posted in your mind? I associate the song 'Blue Eyes' with my daughter even though the song came out five years before she was born.
Our brain acts like a computer. It analyses data fed to it, only our brain is influenced by emotions, experience and memory. If it wasn't everyone would like the same kind of music. I personally like to see and hear that emotion and soul in a performer. It's just my personal preference and what sells it for me.
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Post by foo on Sept 2, 2008 13:19:59 GMT 1
You're a lot like my husband, scriptman...suppose that's why you get on lol He listens intently to lyrics, and associates songs with people in his life. Whereas, I just listen to music cos I like the sound...good lyrics are just a bonus.
I like all kinds of music, as you well know. But my fav is heavy rock...don't really know why, it just is. Foo Fighters vary from heavy rock, punk and love songs. They even have a song that J thinks sounds like "girl from Ipanema" lol Basically, Foo Fighters have a song for my every mood.
"Girl from Ipanema"
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Post by foo on Sept 2, 2008 13:25:37 GMT 1
Foo Fighters..."Virgina Moon"
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Post by foo on Sept 2, 2008 13:29:18 GMT 1
Tell me what you think of this.
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Post by scriptman on Sept 2, 2008 15:34:30 GMT 1
I don't dislike Foo Fighters foo. I could listen to their CD quite easily...... but do you know when you hear songs and see groups and something inspires you inside, I don't get that feeling from the Foo Fighters. Millions of people do, you being one of them. I like Osmonds and the Bee Gees, these are two of the most ridiculed groups in pop history. I like Pete Doherty and Amy Winehouse, two of the most lambasted singers. I like Adele and Shakira... need I say more. I can't sing a note in tune, but I do get lost in music. If I play Iron Maiden's 'Run to the Hills' with my headphones on at full pelt... I'm there with them. Likewise 'Stairway to Heaven', and 'Paranoid'. When I play Bee Gees' 'Run to me' or 'World' I get goosebumps. If I listen to the Northern Soul Classics, I'm lost at Wigan Casino. Animallittle hit the nail on the head when he inferred that people tend to like songs what invoke passion... but the same song will not arouse universal passion, and my argument is that individual people like certain songs because it strikes a chord at a subconscious level, of which has been subjected to 1000s of songs throughout a lifetime. I know just how much you love the Foo Fighters, but why do you think that is? In my opinion it's because they've satisfied everything you like about about music and a group. It's like a bar of chocolate....Dairy Milk too sweet, Galaxy not sweet enough, Nestle too rich... then one day you might go abroad, try some chocolate... serotonin levels hit the roof and you are in heaven. Retrospectively however, it's your life history of tasting different types and makes of chocolate that have helped to formulate your perception of perfect chocolate...mostly on a subconscious level. If you give that same perfect chocolate to someone who has never had chocolate before.....they would spit it out. If you play Foo Fighters to a remote village tribe...they'd think you crazy. Over the years you have fed your brain tens of thousands of songs. It's digested them, and most have been disregarded and shoved back in your long-term memory. The remainder it identifies elements of the songs/groups that stimulate a positive response. Then one day a group comes along that embraces all of these elements, and hey presto you have your idea of perfection. Foo Fighters are your perfect chocolate.
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Post by foo on Sept 3, 2008 7:48:43 GMT 1
That's a brilliant analogy, scriptman...I think you've got something there. My love of heavy rock/metal started in 1980 when I discovered AC/DC. Before then, I listened to everthing (while I ate chocolate ) to try and discover music that really stimulated me. One or two songs/bands were almost there...but it wasn't until I discovered Rock Music that I understood myself, and in a way found my identity. I can't sing or play a note...but I love listening to music, it's theraputic, and means a lot to me. I can't explain what it is about Foo Fighters. If I met the Queen or any famous person, I wouldn't give a toss...but when I got my first ever Foo's concert tickets, I cried! lol Every gig sticks in my mind, and my Foo's T.Shirts and CD's are my prize possessions. You may call this obsessive....but everything about Foo Fighters evokes positive feelings in me, and I suppose it's that "feel good" factor that i'm addicted to. This is my fav song off CD 2... In your Honor.
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Post by scriptman on Sept 3, 2008 9:46:30 GMT 1
I like that song. It's got the American 70s soft rock influence behind it. I used like groups like Steely Dan, Boston, Allman Brothers, Doobie Brothers, America etc.
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Post by foo on Sept 3, 2008 18:56:28 GMT 1
I really like that song, scriptman.
Also love this one....and many many more by Boston.
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Post by scriptman on Sept 3, 2008 20:19:31 GMT 1
Classic song that. I think that kind of music is our common denominator. I have a LP at home called 'FM'. It's the soundtrack to a film of the same name, and it's absolutely brilliant. I'm not sure what the specific genre is, I call it soft rock, but I've heard it called Blues Rock, Jazz rock or Country Rock.....even Cajun Rock. Anyway it features groups like the Eagles, Boston, Foreigner, Linda Ronstadt etc. It also features Boz Scaggs! Remember him?
If you ever come across it.... it's definitely worth spending a couple of quid on it. You will love it.
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Post by foo on Sept 7, 2008 16:02:15 GMT 1
Really like that song, scriptman. You mentioned the Eagles. What do you think of this one?
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Post by scriptman on Sept 7, 2008 22:00:00 GMT 1
I bought the 'Very Best of the Eagles' CD and that song is on it, and I have to say I didn't think it measures up to some of the great songs they did. If you're talking about the great Eagles' ballads, surely this one has to be up there with Lyin' Eyes.
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